Corel Draw Suite - monthly subscription

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Corel Draw Suite - monthly subscription

Post by melek » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:26 am

I don't do vector illustrations, but Corel is moving its CorelDRAW Graphics Suite to the cloud and making it a monthly subscription.

At the moment, this will sell alongside the installed non-cloud version. I don't know if Corel plans to offer both or eventually do away with the standalone version.

Personally, I try to limit the number of companies reaching into my account on a monthly basis.
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Post by PFMcFarland » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:33 pm

I'm going to drop PS Elements and switch to Affinity, that is if Verizon can get their act together and fix my DSL line properly.

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Post by jamesmck » Mon May 11, 2020 2:11 pm

PFMcFarland wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:33 pm
I'm going to drop PS Elements and switch to Affinity, that is if Verizon can get their act together and fix my DSL line properly.

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Have you made the switch, Phil? What attracts you about Affinity.
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Post by PFMcFarland » Mon May 11, 2020 11:16 pm

jamesmck wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 2:11 pm
PFMcFarland wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:33 pm
I'm going to drop PS Elements and switch to Affinity, that is if Verizon can get their act together and fix my DSL line properly.

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Have you made the switch, Phil? What attracts you about Affinity.
Not yet, James. It took Verizon until the middle of last week to fix my line, and I haven't caught up yet on everything. Then I get sidetracked with other projects.

What attracts me about Affinity is first, it's not Adobe. I've gotten tired of the way they have dumbed down Elements, taking some features away, hiding others in places I wouldn't normally think of looking in, and crippling other features. Secondly, Affinity would be a big step up for me at a budget price. I like what I've seen of the program, and the fact you can try it for free to see if it's what you want is nice. They also have two other programs that can be purchased all three together if I want (a movie editor, and I forget what the other one is), or add them later on as I find a use for them.

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Post by Brazile » Tue May 12, 2020 8:13 am

The other is a layout editor, similar in function to InDesign. Useful for things like chapbooks, I hope. I intend to try it use it for that, anyway.

I bought Affinity when the last update of MacOS killed my copy of Photoshop (CS6, the last non-subscription version, killed because although the application is 64-bit, Adobe was still using a 32-bit licensing module that keeps the whole thing from working. I really hate Adobe these days.)

My view so far: Affinity is capable, and has many useful features. It seems to be plug-compatible with some things intended for Photoshop (curve files, some plug-ins, I believe) and obeys many of the same keyboard shortcuts, which is handy. Its UI is a bit odd to me, although I always felt the same about Photoshop, which started out semi-sane for the early 90s, but grew like Topsy into something ridiculous) but I can generally find what I need with a bit of poking around. Affinity's auto modes aren't as good as Photoshop, so my usual quick and dirty stuff actually requires me to think. Probably not a bad thing, but inconvenient sometimes. That said, I think I can get anything done I need to in Affinity, it will just take a while for me to figure out where to find things.

As Phil suggests, the price is very good for the capabilities it provides. And since I still refuse to join Adobe's subscription model, it's worth it for me. The real question is what I will do when my licensed version of Lightroom stops working. Luminar has a DAM capability now, but it's not really up to snuff yet.

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Re: Corel Draw Suite - monthly subscription

Post by PFMcFarland » Tue May 12, 2020 10:44 pm

You know, I've never understood opening up an image in Photoshop, importing it into Lightroom to make changes, then exporting it back to Photoshop to put on the finishing touches. They make it sound so freaking easy, but it's three steps to do what I do in Elements only. I don't get it.

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Re: Corel Draw Suite - monthly subscription

Post by Brazile » Wed May 13, 2020 7:24 am

I think it's intended to be the other way around: you import the whole set of photos into Lightroom, tag and rate them if you like, then modify them there. After all, Lightroom started as essentially a fancy front-end to Adobe Camera Raw, intended more for asset management and workflow. A fancy Bridge + ACR if you like. Then, if you have more localized or sophisticated edits you want to do to a particular photo, you can just select "Edit in Photoshop" on the image, and it will make a copy for you, put you into Photoshop, and then wait patiently for you to finish your work, after which you're back in Lightroom with all edits non-destructive and metadata (tags and ratings) complete. It's pretty clunky as UI (IMO) but does work as billed.

I adopted Lightroom originally as a means of keeping track (i.e., being able to find again) of my (what became) tens of thousands of photos, both digital and scanned film/plates. I tagged photos, allowing me to search for them, and when I had the patience, I rated the good ones, so when I wanted to do printing or had some other use, that would factor into my searches as well. It's extra work, but it's helped me be able to find things in that enormous pile when I needed them on multiple occasions. Made it slightly easier to do interesting print layouts and the like as well. It's also good at letting me review a bunch of photos and building up a collection to use for a purpose, whether uploading or printing.

All that said, once they abandoned the licensed product, which forced me to rent my usage of it (and threatened me with loss of access if I ever wanted to back out of that arrangement) I knew the writing was on the wall. I haven't figured out what to do about it; Luminar is not really quite ready yet. I've heard Capture One is not bad, but expensive. For the time being, LR6 still works, and I'm still using it. Mostly just hoping something I can live with comes along before something causes it to stop working.

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Re: Corel Draw Suite - monthly subscription

Post by PFMcFarland » Sat May 16, 2020 11:45 pm

So, Lightroom is Photoshop Lite? Even that way is still two more steps than having one program do it all. I'll do some more research before I jump at something, but Affinity is the front runner for now.

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